St Louis has a pretty active bar and club scene, with places you can go to drink, dance to any type of music and maybe meet someone new. In that respect, gay bars are no different. St Louis is home to 15-20 (depending on who you ask) gay, lesbian or queer-friendly bars and clubs.
But wait. Are gay and lesbian bars a different breed than the rest? What defines gay club etiquette? To spare our loyal readers from potential faux pas, I present to you Student Life’s investigation of the gay scene, packed with nuggets of wisdom for the gay and straight alike.
The basics:
The first thing you should know is that first impressions matter. How you present yourself and how you react can set the tone for the whole evening. To explain, I’ve enlisted the help of three experts: Shane Mullen, a 24-year-old bartender, Mitch Perry, 24, and their heterosexual friend Lauren Rapp, 31.
“You have to make yourself comfortable,” said Mullen.
“Everyone literally has one eye on the door, and if you walk in not confident, people are going to see that immediately. Your first two seconds in a bar [should be] you, your head up, smiling, laughing, looking confident,” added Perry. “You just need to have confidence when you walk into any bar, gay or straight.”
Pragmatically, Rapp chimed in, “Or [be] on your phone, even if you’re not talking to someone, because they think you have a friend in here you’re meeting.”
But allow me to backtrack. You first have to know your venue. You should decide beforehand if you want a bar or a club, though it’s not always that simple. Establishments blur the lines and can change their atmosphere on different nights of the week, and people may disagree on how to categorize a particular place.
Also, different bars and clubs cater to different types. For example, the bar JJ’s appeals to bikers and leather types, and walking in unknowingly has caught more than a few off guard.
“First time I walked into JJ’s was a weekday night. It’s very small and very dark, and it was terrifying. But they’re my peeps now and I love them. I love hairy, beary leather guys,” said Rapp.
You might be wondering what you should do if you venture out to one of these venues alone. The answer is: Don’t sweat it.
“At some point, you might have to go alone, but no one is going to stare down at you or think bad of you because of that,” said Perry.
“It’s easy to make friends at a gay bar; people are just so friendly,” added Mullen. “If you are a friendly person yourself, you’ll make friends there.”
How to make friends and/or benefits:
I wish I had an easy answer for you, but did you really expect one? Though, maybe these quotes will help.
“I love it when a guy will come up and dance with me. I love it when they’ve got balls. That’s what I look for,” said Perry.
Mullen suggests starting in a group and then branching out.
“If you’re dancing with a group of people you know, and there’s someone relatively close, you can pull them into your group and slowly break away. Its up to your friends to know ‘hey, they wanna dance alone,'” said Mullen.
On the other hand, someone who you just don’t want might want to dance with you. There’s a way to escape with your dignity and theirs mostly intact.
“If I don’t want them, I’ll say ‘I’m going to go find my friends,'” said Perry. “I don’t give any indication I’m coming back.Never just say ‘I’m getting a drink,’ because they’ll say, ‘Cool, I’ll come too.'”
Another suggestion came from junior Daniel Barks.
“Getting rid of unwanted creepy guy can be tricky. I’d probably just play the important incoming call game. You know, ‘Sorry, I should take this. Later!’ You could also be straightforward, but I’d avoid relying on that,” said Barks. “Unwanted creepy guy is probably hip enough to know when he’s not wanted without having to deal with the psychological trauma of being shot down directly.”
Barks had a few other tips for gay bar conduct to keep you from giving the wrong message.
“You should always be aware that any eye contact, especially sustained for more than just a split second, can and probably will be understood as a come on,” said Barks. “If it was an accident, you should try to be understanding if that creepy guy across the room heads your way. He thought he had a shot.”
If you do find yourself meeting someone you like, especially if you’re drunk and dancing (as one tends to be in these places), you might be tempted to go all out right then and there. But please, have some discretion with the PDA. You don’t want to be ‘that guy’, as an anonymous junior advised. Have some self-pride.
Oh, and for god’s sake, leave the bartenders alone!
“I never accept an invitation to go out with someone while I’m on the job. I’ve had playful flirtation, but I’ve never given anyone my number,” said Mullen.
I promise I did not forget lesbians:
So far you’ve had plenty of good advice, but mostly from gay men. Can it be applied across the board? The situation may be somewhat different for lesbians, according to senior Betsy Rubinstein.
“The primarily women-oriented [bars] tend to be less intense,” said Rubenstein. “Clubs that are more lesbian tend to be more low key or neighborhood type bars, while guys’ [places] tend to be more clubs, louder music, more dancing, more lights everywhere. It feels different.” Rubenstein described lesbian places as more “homey” and “earthy.”
“In men’s clubs, things tend to be a lot more stereotypically ‘gayer,'” she added. “It’s difficult to articulate.”
Bars and clubs may be lesbian-centered, gay-male-centered or mixed. And even though a club caters mainly to one type, there’s no rule against going in there anyway. Just be prepared for a potential mix-up.
“Gay bars can be funny for me, because I’m pretty androgynous-looking,” said Rubenstein. “This New Year’s, I was at a gay bar in Chicago.and suddenly I notice this guy staring at me. You could tell he was really interested in me and wanted me.” Rubenstein said he zoomed in and she started dancing with him (for lack of any space to do otherwise). “He started getting touchy, and felt down my chest a bit. Then he stops right over my tits and asks, ‘Uhh, are you a girl?’ and I’m like ‘Yeah.’ That’s not the first time that’s happened, either,” said Rubinstein. “I don’t think a woman would’ve pursued me so vigorously.”
If you’re lazy and straight, skip to this part:
Don’t let me give you the wrong impression. Just because a place is ‘gay’ or ‘lesbian’ doesn’t mean straight people aren’t welcome-far from it. Freshman Michael Greenwald decided to take his chances on an 18+ gay club on a visit to Washington D.C. and was pleasantly surprised.
“A gay club is infinitely more fun than a straight club,” said Greenwald. “I have taken the buses from the business school to the straight clubs in St. Louis and none of them compared to the gay club in D.C. The music was better, the lighting was amazing, and the atmosphere was just crazy,” said Greenwald. “I mostly danced with the people in my group of friends, so at times, I forgot I was even in a gay club.”
Worried about being picked up by another guy/girl at a gay club? Well, grow up, sissy.
“Basically, if you are straight and someone of the same sex tries to hit on you, tell them outright that you are straight,” advised Greenwald. “[My gay friend I came with] assured me that no one would be offended and that most likely they would be happy for not wasting their time.”
However, (and I’m looking at you here, sketchy males), don’t assume that going to a gay bar means you’re a shoe-in for any straight people in the crowd. You’re probably going home alone.
“Straight girls don’t typically go to gay bars when they want to hook up,” said Mullen. “My girlfriends do not want to go to gay bars when they want to find someone, but they’ll go to gay bars with me when they have a boyfriend, you betcha.”
The short version:
So it seems gay bars really aren’t that much different than straight bars. Depending on where you go, you can find quiet, classy, clubby or downright skanky. Gay or straight, you can probably find an atmosphere that suits you and lets you have fun. So don’t be afraid to try something new.
But for many gays and lesbians, bars and clubs are something more. It’s a place to meet people, to make friends, to find support and maybe find love. Simply put, it’s a bedrock of the community.
“At a gay bar, there is this comfort, this feeling of being comfortable in your own skin, because one, people tend to drink which removes some inhibitions, but also, you know you’re in a safe space where you can be gay or queer and no one is going to judge you,” said Rubinstein.