Zach TelthorstSasha Grey is a porn star. Right now, she’s at the top of her game, having just collected the 2008 Adult Video News (AVN) Award, for Female Performer of the Year. Speaking with her at the Adult Entertainment Expo, before her win at the AVN Awards, she seemed unworried about the awards show, considered by many to be the Oscars of the porn world.
“It’s not a big deal. From a business standpoint, it would be nice (to win) because it helps to sell your product. There is an audience who only looks at porn that wins awards.” But Sasha Grey’s popularity goes far beyond porn fans. “I have a large fan base who doesn’t watch porn, just because of my outside interests.” A quick scan of her MySpace page shows that she does not live up to the typical perception of the porn actress.
She keeps long dark hair and her eyes have a sleepy quality but burn with confidence. Her interests include Bauhaus architecture, the Dogme 95 film movement and she lists Carl from “Aqua Teen Hunger Force” as a personal hero. In other words, she’s a pretty, intelligent college-aged woman capable of holding a conversation on any number of topics. She spoke with ease and knowledge about everything from the election to her career to Radiohead’s new album and its unique release style. “It’s so awesome. Who …does that? Radiohead, I guess. I, myself, am a collector of music and film. I collect packaging. So, when that vinyl comes out, I’ll defiantly be getting it.”
At 19, she looks and acts like a college student, which is to say that she is strongly opinionated but still curious. Sasha grew up outside of Sacramento, California and, after spending some time in college started looking into the adult film industry. She saw it as a way to make her mark on an artistic scene and explore her sexuality. Sasha toyed with the idea of entering adult film for several weeks before she started looking into it seriously. “Don’t do it for the money. I did research for eight months before I got in and it still isn’t enough.”
Sasha is known for performing in very hardcore, often rough, sex scenes. She understands the concerns many have with the porn industry and especially with its treatment of women, but thinks a lot of the animosity towards pornography comes from a misunderstanding of intent. “A lot of the concern people have with pornography comes from the fact that they don’t know how to express themselves sexually.you’re never going to learn unless you try.” She refers to herself as a pervert and is quick to point out that her sexual tastes, which include spitting, slapping, vomit (basically anything that doesn’t involve kids or animals) are not the norm. “I don’t mean you’re going to go watch porn and learn something; that’s not how normal people usually have sex. [Watching porn] is an experience and you should want to experience and to learn.”
Because of her age and her choices, she meets a lot of resistance from the public. An appearance on the Tyra Banks Show turned into an attack on the porn industry and its appeal to young girls. Sasha doesn’t complain about her appearance on that show, she knew from the beginning that it would turn out the way it did, but she does mention that the program was heavily edited to make her seem more na’ve than she is.
“People challenge me because of my age and because I’m a woman. People don’t believe that a 19-year-old girl has an opinion. They don’t see that I can do what I do and be proud of what I do.” Her attempts to change the health care system within the porn industry have been fruitless so far, (“It should be a lot better,”) and acknowledges that even within the industry, people hold her age against her. But Sasha’s rising fame should give her a larger platform, as well as open her up to more criticism from the public. “Honestly, I don’t care, as long as I’m not hurting anybody, right?… I know what I’m doing and I know why I’m doing it.”
Like many porn stars, Sasha Grey has a plan, but hers seem more than just mere pipe dreams. “I want to direct and make an impact on this industry. If I do get into mainstream film, I’d want to bring my voice, but I’d want to play a real character, not just myself.”
Sasha Grey has already made an impact on the industry. Her popularity and marketability is growing every day. Los Angeles Magazine posed the question in 2006, “Will 18-year-old Sasha Grey become the adult film industry’s next Jenna Jameson?” With her crossover appeal and intelligence it’s certainly possible. Vertigo, the DC comic which has graced the covers of such classics as “Sandman,” “V for Vendetta” and the recently ended “Y: The Last Man,” wants to make a graphic novel based on her, and she talks cryptically of a mainstream film project with a “very well-known director.” But Sasha Grey offers something that even Jenna Jameson hasn’t got. First, it is a dedication to the ultra-hardcore porn that is now emerging into the mainstream adult market, and second, that she is relatable. She doesn’t have fake breasts or bushy blonde hair, and she doesn’t fit the stereotype of “porn star.” But still, she isn’t apologetic or regretful. She doesn’t rule out growing tired of the lifestyle eventually. “The minute I don’t like what I’m doing I don’t want to do it anymore, I don’t want to be one of those people who hates my job, who hates my career.” While her recent award win has certainly sped up that track to mainstream fame, Sasha Grey seems unflappable. She has made her choices and, while she doesn’t expect everyone to agree, she hopes people will be able to respect her enough to let her make them.
On movies
“I like filmmakers who take a risk. Somebody like (Jean-Luc) Godard or Robert Altman, or somebody like Crispin Glover.” She especially appreciates Crispin Glover’s attempts to promote his experimental movies, like “What Is It?” without much help from the studio. “I really like the way he’s touring with his film, like it’s his baby. I think the fans, especially cineastes, like to go see that.”
Although she works constantly (after less than two years she has 90 titles listed on the Internet Adult Film Database) she finds some time to watch new releases. “Two films that defiantly stick out are “No Country for Old Men” by the Coen Brothers and “There Will be Blood” by PT Anderson. Brilliant. I keep thinking about that movie. The woman in front of me in the theater was wearing Patchouli oil and for some reason it brought a whole different vibe to the film. It was really bizarre how it worked.” Some of her favorites include “Jules et Jim”, Godard’s “My Life to Live” and Steve Soderbergh’s “Schizopolis.” “As much as I love “There will be Blood” we already have films like that that challenge art and film-making. But people are unaware of them, but because they have PT Anderson and because of how well known he is, it gets more leverage.”
On music
Musically, her tastes run the gamut, but, more recently, Sasha Grey has strayed towards the experimental side of music. “I’ve been listening to a lot of Current 93, a lot of Coil, Danzig.” Her attitudes on illegal downloading lean toward the negatively apathetic, but for a performer who certainly loses some money to piracy her attitude is understandable. “It depends on what your take is. The market will split in half between people who want to own and the online people.” She is in a small, unsigned experimental band called Atelecine. “We record whenever we can, we’re pretty much doing it for ourselves. You can hunt us down on MySpace and check it out.” Anyone whose MySpace page has three references to David Bowie has got to make something worth listening to.
On politics
“Can’t wait till November. It’s exciting but it’s also scary. I think there will be a Democrat in office but I’m curious to see who and I’m curious to see if the y live up to what they say.” She is careful to not be too specific with her political leanings, but certainly is open with the cynicism so many young people share. “I was listening to NPR the other day and they were reporting on a rally and the people there were shouting “We want change! We want change!” and it gets me because I don’t hear the conviction in their voices. I just think it’s a spark. One person started saying it. I don’t feel the conviction. It depresses me because I do want change and I know there are a lot of people out there that do as well.”
When asked about her feelings on a viable presidential candidate that didn’t believe in evolution, she responded with a little laugh. “Just like all porn stars are supposed to be on crack-I’ll just say no comment, because that’s just ridiculous.”
Scott Bressler
MCT
Scott Bressler
Scott Bressler