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		<title>By: Jerome Bauer</title>
		<link>http://www.studlife.com/news/2009/11/11/university-shuts-down-student-mock-prison-camp/#comment-4044</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerome Bauer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 04:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is another article, from KMOX, &quot;Students against socialism turn heads at Washington University&quot;, http://www.kmox.com/pages/5635175.php? 

This article quotes some Russian students who were offended by Russian stereotypes and the targeting of Russia instead of China or some other officially socialist or communist country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is another article, from KMOX, &#8220;Students against socialism turn heads at Washington University&#8221;, <a href="http://www.kmox.com/pages/5635175.php?" rel="nofollow">http://www.kmox.com/pages/5635175.php?</a> </p>
<p>This article quotes some Russian students who were offended by Russian stereotypes and the targeting of Russia instead of China or some other officially socialist or communist country.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerome Bauer</title>
		<link>http://www.studlife.com/news/2009/11/11/university-shuts-down-student-mock-prison-camp/#comment-4003</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerome Bauer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 09:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is an article from STLtoday, &quot;Gulag gets the heave-ho at Wash U demonstration,: http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/the-grade/higher-education/2009/11/gulag-gets-the-heave-ho-at-wash-u-demonstration/ 

The article quotes Washington University Event Services:

“The Young Americans for Liberty chapter did request space for Nov. 9 on the Women’s Building lawn, but only indicating that they planned “a small service and moment of silence” as well as to hand out pamphlets at the site. No mention was made of constructing a display, particularly one of significant proportion that could present risk to those building it, as well as to those in the immediate area. Power tools were used without permission and without facilities office oversight.

“The students were not asked to disband or discontinue their approved activities, but they were asked to remove the structure that they did not have permission to build on this site.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is an article from STLtoday, &#8220;Gulag gets the heave-ho at Wash U demonstration,: <a href="http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/the-grade/higher-education/2009/11/gulag-gets-the-heave-ho-at-wash-u-demonstration/" rel="nofollow">http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/the-grade/higher-education/2009/11/gulag-gets-the-heave-ho-at-wash-u-demonstration/</a> </p>
<p>The article quotes Washington University Event Services:</p>
<p>“The Young Americans for Liberty chapter did request space for Nov. 9 on the Women’s Building lawn, but only indicating that they planned “a small service and moment of silence” as well as to hand out pamphlets at the site. No mention was made of constructing a display, particularly one of significant proportion that could present risk to those building it, as well as to those in the immediate area. Power tools were used without permission and without facilities office oversight.</p>
<p>“The students were not asked to disband or discontinue their approved activities, but they were asked to remove the structure that they did not have permission to build on this site.”</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://www.studlife.com/news/2009/11/11/university-shuts-down-student-mock-prison-camp/#comment-3979</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard Markel: &quot;I mean, I’m against almost everything YAL stands for&quot;

You are against liberty?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard Markel: &#8220;I mean, I’m against almost everything YAL stands for&#8221;</p>
<p>You are against liberty?</p>
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		<title>By: Jerome Bauer</title>
		<link>http://www.studlife.com/news/2009/11/11/university-shuts-down-student-mock-prison-camp/#comment-3938</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerome Bauer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 03:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just heard more about the Mizzou Speaking Circle, from an alum, who tells us that free speech is  really practiced there, especially lively criticism of the University Administration, at top volume. Let&#039;s start this here, and everywhere, without further delay.

We can&#039;t let Mizzou put us to shame, can we?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just heard more about the Mizzou Speaking Circle, from an alum, who tells us that free speech is  really practiced there, especially lively criticism of the University Administration, at top volume. Let&#8217;s start this here, and everywhere, without further delay.</p>
<p>We can&#8217;t let Mizzou put us to shame, can we?</p>
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		<title>By: Dirk Doebler</title>
		<link>http://www.studlife.com/news/2009/11/11/university-shuts-down-student-mock-prison-camp/#comment-3935</link>
		<dc:creator>Dirk Doebler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out this link. It shows what the administrators were saying before shutting down the event: http://biggovernment.com/2009/11/12/undercover-video-university-political-officials-shut-down-gulag-memorial/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out this link. It shows what the administrators were saying before shutting down the event: <a href="http://biggovernment.com/2009/11/12/undercover-video-university-political-officials-shut-down-gulag-memorial/" rel="nofollow">http://biggovernment.com/2009/11/12/undercover-video-university-political-officials-shut-down-gulag-memorial/</a></p>
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		<title>By: 2007 Grad</title>
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		<dc:creator>2007 Grad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe the gulag was a little extreme, but there really isn&#039;t any doubt that this was taken down because it rubbed someone the wrong way.  No power tools?  Please.  I&#039;ve built structures for Thurtene that a 5 mph wind could take down.  While Devil&#039;s advocate has a reasonable point, they went through the proper channels and got approval.  Someone didn&#039;t agree with the message, and decided to shit on it.  Luckily for YAL, that kind of  holier than thou attitude is bound to generate some internet press these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe the gulag was a little extreme, but there really isn&#8217;t any doubt that this was taken down because it rubbed someone the wrong way.  No power tools?  Please.  I&#8217;ve built structures for Thurtene that a 5 mph wind could take down.  While Devil&#8217;s advocate has a reasonable point, they went through the proper channels and got approval.  Someone didn&#8217;t agree with the message, and decided to shit on it.  Luckily for YAL, that kind of  holier than thou attitude is bound to generate some internet press these days.</p>
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		<title>By: Hello</title>
		<link>http://www.studlife.com/news/2009/11/11/university-shuts-down-student-mock-prison-camp/#comment-3918</link>
		<dc:creator>Hello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  America is turning into a gulag, eh.  Someone should give these morons a good beating, that&#039;ll be a good simulation of a gulag</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  America is turning into a gulag, eh.  Someone should give these morons a good beating, that&#8217;ll be a good simulation of a gulag</p>
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		<title>By: Devil's advocate general" sucks ass</title>
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		<dc:creator>Devil's advocate general" sucks ass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey clown, 

It wasn&#039;t russian opera music, it was communist paul robeson singing the russian national anthem. Clown. 

Further, as emily eloquently states, why didn&#039;t they just shut it down immediately then? Hmmm?

And why oh why did they allow the same crew to deconstruct what had been constructed. 

If it is dangerous to construct it is just as dangerous to deconstruct. 

It was censorship, clown. Deal with it and stop being an apologist for the man.

Just further proof that Wash U students are sellouts to the &quot;Man.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey clown, </p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t russian opera music, it was communist paul robeson singing the russian national anthem. Clown. </p>
<p>Further, as emily eloquently states, why didn&#8217;t they just shut it down immediately then? Hmmm?</p>
<p>And why oh why did they allow the same crew to deconstruct what had been constructed. </p>
<p>If it is dangerous to construct it is just as dangerous to deconstruct. </p>
<p>It was censorship, clown. Deal with it and stop being an apologist for the man.</p>
<p>Just further proof that Wash U students are sellouts to the &#8220;Man.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: "emily" is a GENIUS</title>
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		<dc:creator>"emily" is a GENIUS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Emily, fabulous point. I hadn&#039;t considered that. You&#039;re exactly right. If there was a public safety issue, then why didn&#039;t they stop the erection  (giggle)  immediately. 

and just to be clear, ain&#039;t NOBODY that can stop an erection faster than Wash U admins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emily, fabulous point. I hadn&#8217;t considered that. You&#8217;re exactly right. If there was a public safety issue, then why didn&#8217;t they stop the erection  (giggle)  immediately. </p>
<p>and just to be clear, ain&#8217;t NOBODY that can stop an erection faster than Wash U admins.</p>
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		<title>By: emily</title>
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		<dc:creator>emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 05:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it very interesting that several WU security officers stood by and watched the Gulag being built without intervening in the name of safety, and then waited three hours to shut the event down. If event services was truly concerned about the safety of the YAL members, why didn&#039;t they stop the erection of the structure, or take it down themselves, considering that the students used the same &quot;dangerous&quot; materials to take it down?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it very interesting that several WU security officers stood by and watched the Gulag being built without intervening in the name of safety, and then waited three hours to shut the event down. If event services was truly concerned about the safety of the YAL members, why didn&#8217;t they stop the erection of the structure, or take it down themselves, considering that the students used the same &#8220;dangerous&#8221; materials to take it down?</p>
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