Comments on: Students reach agreement with Original Mothers bar http://www.studlife.com/news/2009/10/30/students-reach-agreement-with-original-mothers-bar/ The independent newspaper of Washington University in St. Louis Sun, 12 Feb 2012 19:42:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Drew Nikel http://www.studlife.com/news/2009/10/30/students-reach-agreement-with-original-mothers-bar/#comment-3191 Drew Nikel Sat, 31 Oct 2009 20:17:08 +0000 http://www.studlife.com/?p=6592#comment-3191 Are you comparing Rosa Parks to these Gentlemen? This is a completely different context. Rosa Parks wasnt trying to get her Drink on, her Flirt On, Her Party On etc. All you can Drink specials? LOL In my opinion discrimination towards entry into a bar or club is a superficial issue. Why would you even want a right passage to establishments that discriminate against the way you look? Its like complaining that you cant get in the VIP section of Sodom and Gomorrah. Its like Malcolm X getting mad that he cant get in the Klu Klux Klan because he's black. A while ago I heard of a story where Mark Cuban was not allowed entry into a night club/lounge in NY. AND HE'S A BILLIONAIRE and I believe he even tried to tip the bouncers and managers a few grand just to get in. Who knows why they did not want him there. Basicly, here is the point I am trying to make. I'm sure that these 6 brothers are oustanding citizens. They go to school, they work hard, they are inteligent. They are born leaders. This issue of discrimination into a bar/club is BENEATH THEM. I'm sure they could of been doing something much more productive with their time. Aren't there far more important issues to take a stand against? Are you comparing Rosa Parks to these Gentlemen? This is a completely different context. Rosa Parks wasnt trying to get her Drink on, her Flirt On, Her Party On etc. All you can Drink specials? LOL

In my opinion discrimination towards entry into a bar or club is a superficial issue. Why would you even want a right passage to establishments that discriminate against the way you look?

Its like complaining that you cant get in the VIP section of Sodom and Gomorrah.

Its like Malcolm X getting mad that he cant get in the Klu Klux Klan because he’s black.

A while ago I heard of a story where Mark Cuban was not allowed entry into a night club/lounge in NY. AND HE’S A BILLIONAIRE and I believe he even tried to tip the bouncers and managers a few grand just to get in. Who knows why they did not want him there.

Basicly, here is the point I am trying to make. I’m sure that these 6 brothers are oustanding citizens. They go to school, they work hard, they are inteligent. They are born leaders. This issue of discrimination into a bar/club is BENEATH THEM. I’m sure they could of been doing something much more productive with their time. Aren’t there far more important issues to take a stand against?

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]]> By: Cedric http://www.studlife.com/news/2009/10/30/students-reach-agreement-with-original-mothers-bar/#comment-3184 Cedric Sat, 31 Oct 2009 18:53:41 +0000 http://www.studlife.com/?p=6592#comment-3184 Good comments Drew, but I guess my question is (and purely rhetorical so no response necessary) when does one take a stand? I mean is taking a stand just reserved for housing, jobs, lending, or schooling. Should Rosa Parks have just gotten on another bus? Should the Greensboro 4 have just gone to another restaurant? And I can go down the list of many whose discriminating event may have been trivial to you or me, but to them it was the proverbial "straw that broke the camel's back". Some of your other questions about the course of events can be answered if you read the articles more carefully. Lastly you didn't get in for tattoos, but if you looked inside and saw others inside gettin' their party and drink on, with more tats than you, or on your way out the door you saw Mike Tyson get in with his eye tattoo....com'on. The way you write, I know you would at least tell all your friends in Houston trying to hurt the bar's business...pa-leeze. Oh yeah, my last last. People often talk of humility, when they are not the one being humiliated. To me humility is not getting caught up in the media hype; or not wasting time going for lawyer incited monetary gain; or saying what you have to say and moving on. Humility is these young men (who obviously if WASHU students have a good future ahead) putting their private lives on the world stage knowing that many will try to ridicule them, yet going forth anyway because they said it is not always about me. Humility is saying I am my brother's keeper. RIGHT TO PARTY OR RIGHT OF PASSAGE? It all depends on your point of perspective. Good comments Drew, but I guess my question is (and purely rhetorical so no response necessary) when does one take a stand? I mean is taking a stand just reserved for housing, jobs, lending, or schooling. Should Rosa Parks have just gotten on another bus? Should the Greensboro 4 have just gone to another restaurant? And I can go down the list of many whose discriminating event may have been trivial to you or me, but to them it was the proverbial “straw that broke the camel’s back”.

Some of your other questions about the course of events can be answered if you read the articles more carefully.

Lastly you didn’t get in for tattoos, but if you looked inside and saw others inside gettin’ their party and drink on, with more tats than you, or on your way out the door you saw Mike Tyson get in with his eye tattoo….com’on. The way you write, I know you would at least tell all your friends in Houston trying to hurt the bar’s business…pa-leeze.

Oh yeah, my last last. People often talk of humility, when they are not the one being humiliated. To me humility is not getting caught up in the media hype; or not wasting time going for lawyer incited monetary gain; or saying what you have to say and moving on. Humility is these young men (who obviously if WASHU students have a good future ahead) putting their private lives on the world stage knowing that many will try to ridicule them, yet going forth anyway because they said it is not always about me. Humility is saying I am my brother’s keeper.

RIGHT TO PARTY OR RIGHT OF PASSAGE? It all depends on your point of perspective.

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]]> By: Drew Nikel http://www.studlife.com/news/2009/10/30/students-reach-agreement-with-original-mothers-bar/#comment-3127 Drew Nikel Sat, 31 Oct 2009 04:25:19 +0000 http://www.studlife.com/?p=6592#comment-3127 Wow... I didnt think these students would take it this far... Its good that they are taking a stand... but they could of been putting all this effort into a much more important issue... I understand where they are coming from, but to me it sounds like they are just preserving their self dignity by trying get one up on the club owners. I'm just now hearing about this incident.... I made a comment just now on the original article so I'm going to copy and paste my last comment: I’m from Houston. If I had a nickel everytime my boys and I went to the club and got turned away… Its always for some crap too, like having tattoos showing , the wrong clothes, too much jewelry, fake ID (which wasnt fake) etc etc etc… Its Humiliating… but HUMILITY is a PART OF LIFE Come on now fellas? is it really that crucial? Just get over it… Out of all the things you could protest, your protesting that you cant get into a bar/club? ITS THEIR CLUB! if they dont want you there, they dont want you there… END OF STORY! GO TO THE NEXT CLUB. I’m Sure there are a Gazillion other clubs in Chi town that would love your business… And why would you protest a bar/club during the day time? NOBODY is going to be there to see it! People party at night time! not the morning… DUH! I Could understand if they put the Fire hose on them or released some German Sheppards on them… If they refused your entry in the first place why would you even want to argue to get inside? But hey… like they say.. “YOU GOT TO FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHT TO PARTY!!!” lol (I apologize if I broke any policies for posting comments. I love the site, I often read but never post, thanks) Wow… I didnt think these students would take it this far… Its good that they are taking a stand… but they could of been putting all this effort into a much more important issue…

I understand where they are coming from, but to me it sounds like they are just preserving their self dignity by trying get one up on the club owners.

I’m just now hearing about this incident…. I made a comment just now on the original article so I’m going to copy and paste my last comment:

I’m from Houston. If I had a nickel everytime my boys and I went to the club and got turned away… Its always for some crap too, like having tattoos showing , the wrong clothes, too much jewelry, fake ID (which wasnt fake) etc etc etc… Its Humiliating… but HUMILITY is a PART OF LIFE

Come on now fellas? is it really that crucial? Just get over it… Out of all the things you could protest, your protesting that you cant get into a bar/club? ITS THEIR CLUB! if they dont want you there, they dont want you there… END OF STORY! GO TO THE NEXT CLUB. I’m Sure there are a Gazillion other clubs in Chi town that would love your business…

And why would you protest a bar/club during the day time? NOBODY is going to be there to see it! People party at night time! not the morning… DUH!

I Could understand if they put the Fire hose on them or released some German Sheppards on them…

If they refused your entry in the first place why would you even want to argue to get inside?

But hey… like they say.. “YOU GOT TO FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHT TO PARTY!!!” lol

(I apologize if I broke any policies for posting comments. I love the site, I often read but never post, thanks)

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