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	<title>Comments on: Students announce agreement with Mothers Bar</title>
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		<title>By: WUSTL Alum '99</title>
		<link>http://www.studlife.com/news/2009/10/28/students-announce-agreement-with-mothers-bar/#comment-3374</link>
		<dc:creator>WUSTL Alum '99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 03:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing that hasn&#039;t been brought up is that a lot of these the downtown and north side bars selectively admit people based on race.  Most aim to keep their bar crowd predominantly white, so the the bar owner or manager will instruct the bouncer/door personnel to only let in a handful of black people (this is a lot of times particularly enforced when it comes to black men).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing that hasn&#8217;t been brought up is that a lot of these the downtown and north side bars selectively admit people based on race.  Most aim to keep their bar crowd predominantly white, so the the bar owner or manager will instruct the bouncer/door personnel to only let in a handful of black people (this is a lot of times particularly enforced when it comes to black men).</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Bies</title>
		<link>http://www.studlife.com/news/2009/10/28/students-announce-agreement-with-mothers-bar/#comment-3273</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Bies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 22:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ &quot;am man of reason said&quot;

I think a better name for you would be &quot;a man with the critical reading ability of a fifth grader&quot;.

Anyway, before you angrily agree with me again, you might want to read these articles on &quot;hyperbole&quot; and &quot;sarcasm&quot;:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperbole

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ &#8220;am man of reason said&#8221;</p>
<p>I think a better name for you would be &#8220;a man with the critical reading ability of a fifth grader&#8221;.</p>
<p>Anyway, before you angrily agree with me again, you might want to read these articles on &#8220;hyperbole&#8221; and &#8220;sarcasm&#8221;:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperbole" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperbole</a></p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Charles H.</title>
		<link>http://www.studlife.com/news/2009/10/28/students-announce-agreement-with-mothers-bar/#comment-3118</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 02:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After some thought, and a blog post on it at http://newageofpolitics.wordpress.com , I am hopeful for this settlement; it is not perfect, but what in life is?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After some thought, and a blog post on it at <a href="http://newageofpolitics.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">http://newageofpolitics.wordpress.com</a> , I am hopeful for this settlement; it is not perfect, but what in life is?</p>
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		<title>By: man of reason</title>
		<link>http://www.studlife.com/news/2009/10/28/students-announce-agreement-with-mothers-bar/#comment-3016</link>
		<dc:creator>man of reason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 05:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason they &quot;settled&quot; is because they knew there was no case.  What you have is 2 not 6(check the facts), black males upset that they did not get into a bar because of dress code infractions.  If you have ever worked security at any large nightclub, in any major city, you would know that a large number of people do not get in because of dress code infractions.  It does not matter what race you are.  Why is it assumed that if a black man gets denied entry for dress code, the bar is being racist?  There is no proof that the &quot;experiment&quot; of changing pants with a white person ever happened. If it did happen, maybe the doorman just missed it.  These doorman see at least 1000 people walk in and out all night long.  They will miss dress code infractions during the night with all races.  Has anyone even bothered to see what type of patrons that go to this nightclub?  If you have been there, which I have, you would know it is very diverse.  They have black waitresses, bartenders and doormen.  A racist bar would not have these hiring practices.  People need to take a step back and look at this situation from all sides.
     Comparing Original Mothers&#039;s to Hilter at an anti-Holocaust demonstration!  Your comparing a man that had millions of Jews murdered, to a bar that did not let in a couple of guys because of their jeans?  What have things come to?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason they &#8220;settled&#8221; is because they knew there was no case.  What you have is 2 not 6(check the facts), black males upset that they did not get into a bar because of dress code infractions.  If you have ever worked security at any large nightclub, in any major city, you would know that a large number of people do not get in because of dress code infractions.  It does not matter what race you are.  Why is it assumed that if a black man gets denied entry for dress code, the bar is being racist?  There is no proof that the &#8220;experiment&#8221; of changing pants with a white person ever happened. If it did happen, maybe the doorman just missed it.  These doorman see at least 1000 people walk in and out all night long.  They will miss dress code infractions during the night with all races.  Has anyone even bothered to see what type of patrons that go to this nightclub?  If you have been there, which I have, you would know it is very diverse.  They have black waitresses, bartenders and doormen.  A racist bar would not have these hiring practices.  People need to take a step back and look at this situation from all sides.<br />
     Comparing Original Mothers&#8217;s to Hilter at an anti-Holocaust demonstration!  Your comparing a man that had millions of Jews murdered, to a bar that did not let in a couple of guys because of their jeans?  What have things come to?</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Bies</title>
		<link>http://www.studlife.com/news/2009/10/28/students-announce-agreement-with-mothers-bar/#comment-2893</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Bies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 06:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ugh.  Could this have gone better for Mother&#039;s?  A quick end to all the bad media coverage with a simple apology?  And I&#039;m sure those three fundraisers taking place IN THE BAR won&#039;t help their popularity at all... 

Is the FBI investigation still going on at least?

Oh and @ WUSTL Alum &#039;99:
&quot;Having a few of the bar staff march with the students at this upcoming demonstration is like having a convicted murderer march with the family of his victim at an anti-violence demonstration&quot;

Hyperbole much?  I don&#039;t think you quite got your point across.  Maybe you should have said it&#039;s like &quot;having Hitler march with a family of Jews at an anti-Holocaust demonstration&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ugh.  Could this have gone better for Mother&#8217;s?  A quick end to all the bad media coverage with a simple apology?  And I&#8217;m sure those three fundraisers taking place IN THE BAR won&#8217;t help their popularity at all&#8230; </p>
<p>Is the FBI investigation still going on at least?</p>
<p>Oh and @ WUSTL Alum &#8217;99:<br />
&#8220;Having a few of the bar staff march with the students at this upcoming demonstration is like having a convicted murderer march with the family of his victim at an anti-violence demonstration&#8221;</p>
<p>Hyperbole much?  I don&#8217;t think you quite got your point across.  Maybe you should have said it&#8217;s like &#8220;having Hitler march with a family of Jews at an anti-Holocaust demonstration&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles H.</title>
		<link>http://www.studlife.com/news/2009/10/28/students-announce-agreement-with-mothers-bar/#comment-2888</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 05:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmmm...beating CNN by 4 hours, nice job.  I&#039;m kinda skeptical about the sensitivity training too...but hey, it&#039;s better than nothing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmmm&#8230;beating CNN by 4 hours, nice job.  I&#8217;m kinda skeptical about the sensitivity training too&#8230;but hey, it&#8217;s better than nothing</p>
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		<title>By: Not Surprised</title>
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		<dc:creator>Not Surprised</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 04:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sensitivity training? Give me a break.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sensitivity training? Give me a break.</p>
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		<title>By: WUSTL Alum '99</title>
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		<dc:creator>WUSTL Alum '99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 02:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I applaud the students discriminated against as well as some of their fellow students for the action they took.  I really would have liked the bar to have been hit in the pocketbook though, to send the message that what they did was wrong and that they can&#039;t continue it in the future.  Had the students pressed on with a lawsuit that resulted in a financial settlement, they could have donated that money to whatever cause they wanted.  I feel the bar got off with barely a slap on the wrist and that the managers are probably laughing at this &quot;diversity training&quot; they have agreed to undergo.  Having a few of the bar staff march with the students at this upcoming demonstration is like having a convicted murderer march with the family of his victim at an anti-violence demonstration.  And the fact that Student Union will be funding this trip really says to me that the joke is on you guys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I applaud the students discriminated against as well as some of their fellow students for the action they took.  I really would have liked the bar to have been hit in the pocketbook though, to send the message that what they did was wrong and that they can&#8217;t continue it in the future.  Had the students pressed on with a lawsuit that resulted in a financial settlement, they could have donated that money to whatever cause they wanted.  I feel the bar got off with barely a slap on the wrist and that the managers are probably laughing at this &#8220;diversity training&#8221; they have agreed to undergo.  Having a few of the bar staff march with the students at this upcoming demonstration is like having a convicted murderer march with the family of his victim at an anti-violence demonstration.  And the fact that Student Union will be funding this trip really says to me that the joke is on you guys.</p>
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		<title>By: Danielle Patton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danielle Patton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 02:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just read on kmov.com that Mother&#039;s is only apologizing for the bad experience that the 6 students had at the bar. They are not even admitting to unfair treatment. I&#039;m really disappointed with that part, but congrats on everything else guys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read on kmov.com that Mother&#8217;s is only apologizing for the bad experience that the 6 students had at the bar. They are not even admitting to unfair treatment. I&#8217;m really disappointed with that part, but congrats on everything else guys.</p>
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		<title>By: Mamatha Challa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mamatha Challa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 21:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m really happy with this news! It shows that we want to go beyond just trying to get some sort of monetary compensation, and that we actually want to work to stop these kinds of events from happening again. Nice job, guys! 

Also, nice job on the quick reporting, StudLife. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really happy with this news! It shows that we want to go beyond just trying to get some sort of monetary compensation, and that we actually want to work to stop these kinds of events from happening again. Nice job, guys! </p>
<p>Also, nice job on the quick reporting, StudLife. :)</p>
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