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Bosnia’s predictable demise

Caleb Posner

Staff Columnist

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Published: Wednesday, November 5, 2008

Updated: Wednesday, November 5, 2008

Last week, Clinton stooge and Dayton Accords author Richard Holbrooke wrote an alarmist editorial that has slowly been gaining international media attention, wherein he expressed great concern over the continued existence of Bosnia. He offered a number of diplomatic remedies that might, according to him, prevent what seems like the otherwise inevitable collapse of another state in the Balkans. As was noted, the reason behind his article is that he regards the continued existence of modern Bosnia as essential. Rather than defend this position, this is an assertion he takes for granted, which ought not be the case. Truth be told, Bosnia has no historical legitimacy, is irrational in construct, and has been destined to fail from the start. While collapse of a state is rarely beneficial, especially in the powder keg of Europe, the way this situation is approached must be grounded in an appreciation for the region’s history and the present day realities, neither of which Holbrooke appears to firmly grasp.

Bosnia is not a nation of historic validity, but a disputed buffer region between the competing Serbian and Croatian nations, each of whom have legitimate claims to substantial portions of the land. Accordingly, it has been of a multi-ethnic character for centuries, and remains so today. However, this fuels substantial conflict in a region where multi-ethnic states have often proven themselves to be breeding grounds for violence and genocide, the overwhelming majority of which has always been directed against the Serbs. In a half-baked effort to pacify this battleground nation, the Dayton Accords created a federal system wherein there is a relatively weak national government, and two much stronger state governments. Republika Srpska hosts the nation’s sizable Serbian population, while the Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina hosts the remaining Bosniak and Croat populations.

After many years of brutal warfare and chaos, both sides set national ambitions aside and worked together to rebuild. But, as seemed fairly obvious to any individual with a grasp of the true nature of the Balkans, this was short lived. Though we have not yet seen war, the rhetoric has become increasingly polarized. Those in the Federation have been pushing for drastic reforms that would shift all of the power into a strong central government, where they would make up the majority of the population and could thus run roughshod over the rights of the Serbian minority. In turn, this has inspired the highly moderate government of Republika Srpska to extend legitimacy to the idea of ending Bosnia, by way of becoming independent (or more reasonably merging with Serbia), should the need arise.

As the nation exists today, it is a tense union between two unlike factions with highly divergent agendas and interests. So why continue to prop it up? If the only justification is Balkans stability then the answer is not to add to the hasty patchwork keeping Bosnia as one nation, but to proactively develop and implement a more rational and permanent solution. That means separating Republika Srpska from the Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina immediately, merging the former with Serbia. But what to do with the latter? Allowing it to become independent as is would be dangerous, since quite naturally the Croats would seek reunion with the motherland, and inspire yet another bloody conflict. As it happens, the ethnic divisions are presently such that the Croatian-dominated portions could be given to Croatia without much issue, allowing the Bosniaks to have a new state of their own. Wedged between the powers of the region, it would be kept in check, and its ability to provide a breeding ground for jihad and Islamism would be reduced by threat of invasion from the concerned neighbor states (this will be elaborated on in a future column).

 

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31 comments
Irena
Tue Mar 31 2009 05:13
I feel sorry for all of us if we think anything is as easy as we say. Have you been to Bosnia, Caleb? Are you actually calling its people Islamofascists? There may be some crazy misinformed people here, but there are crazy misinformed people everywhere. I'd honestly like to know where you got your facts. From some bitter ex-Yugoslavs? How would it feel if people started talking about the Civil War and how the South should have won? Though, sometimes I feel like that would have been a good thing these days.
The Balkans are messed up, but that doesn't mean that an entire nation's identity has to be thrown to the wolves. And yes, it's horrible to see what happened to Serbia as well, just as it is horrible too see the things in Bosnia and Croatia. I don't see that separation is the solution, though. It never is.
NirvanaNY
Thu Mar 26 2009 11:36
"....where multi-ethnic states have often proven themselves to be breeding grounds for violence and genocide, the overwhelming majority of which has always been directed against the Serbs"

I don't know why articles like this still come out today for the public to view. Media will always be biased towards one side, but saying things such as this is just simply FALSE.

You really need to get your facts straight, or perhaps have lived there during the war, instead of hearing things from people who themselves have false views...

John
Wed Mar 25 2009 01:17
Yeah you should stay in school a little longer. Get some facts before you become the new Karadzic or Milosevic and try to get rid of innocent Muslim people.
Mensur Omerbashich
Thu Nov 27 2008 14:37
Never heard of "disappearing peoples", especially those allegedly gone in a mere few centuries? Were they adopted by an alien civilization? Seriously now: more likely, the sources (Roman, Hellenic, later Serbian, Croatian...) started calling Bosnians their own. It's called geopolitics. Happens often, all around the globe, e.g. today in the Middle East where freedom fighters are commonly regarded as terrorists. You catch my drift… Which brings me to an earlier comment by this propaganda’s author: Serbs and Croats became as such around the Renaissance, with other nationalist movements of Europe. So, no Serbs or Croats existed as such in "5th century". Just us, Illyrians, later regarded as Bosnians (after a centrally positioned Illyrian tribe and river) – the people of Kingdom of Bosnia put in place along with many other kingdoms to safeguard the Pope in the collapsed-Rome aftermath, when Slav hordes began unstoppably advancing towards Rome…

Reminder: around 17th/18th century, immediately after England got nearly nailed by powerful Spaniard fleet under the Pope, masonic creeps (London's puppets) spread across Europe to instate capitalism instead of monarchies. England wanted to preemptively get rid of “Papal armies” after her “Deadliest War”, so by manipulating human weaknesses (as today!) England and her Freemoronic Trojan Horse put in power a number of money-grabbing morons called capitalists, across Europe… (By the way, they still run most of Europe.)

The Pope’s noble intention of 17th century was to civilize the Anglo-Saxons, something even Romans never managed to do. Slavs were the only other significant European tribe that Romans never civilized either. These two failures by the Romans/Pope are the cause for all major troubles that Europe has gone through since 17th century at least. Even as we speak, the EU has been sabotaged by London (finances/monetary) and its credit-puppet Moscow (energy)… At the same time they pretend (recall the joke called "Fall of Communism"?) to be grave rivals over Bosnia and thereby afraid of each other, thus justifying the Bosnia’s gridlock, when in fact London supported Serbia in early 1990-ies when Russia was on her knees. So keeping the Pope in his Golden Cage (a.k.a. Vatican) that Italian masonic traitors have placed him in one century ago, is of utmost importance to London. We all know how to make a golden cage golden. It’s the part ‘how you make it a cage' that’s relevant here.

Dee
Fri Nov 14 2008 11:28
Good article from Caleb!
Mrtav Hladan
Fri Nov 14 2008 04:21
Illyrians don't make me laugh they disappeared and then 3-4 hundred years later Albanians are mentioned.Now all of the Balkans is Illyran.Seems that The Austro-Hugaran propaganda is still in effect.
Bosnia is a EU colony and will eventually split between Srbija nad Hrvatska.And the Muslims will get what we leave them.
Mensur Omerbashich
Thu Nov 13 2008 13:32
To Alexandar: around 2/3 of all Bosnians are Illyrian, according to independent (Western) DNA studies in the last decade or so. Most Croatians, Montenegrens and Albanians are also Illyrian. It also turns out that most Serbians are not even Slav... The Bosnians=Illyrians equation coincides well with ancient maps depicting Greco-Roman period, showing Illyria centered on Bosnia and naming the today's Adriatic Sea (Emperor Hadrian's Sea) as Mare Illyricum -- the Illyrian Sea. Professor John Wilkes, a world leading authority on Illyrians, also supports this equation. So, you were saying?
Aleksandar
Thu Nov 13 2008 11:00
In ten, twenty, or hundred years, sooner or later Bosnia will separate into three pieces and the Croatian and Serbian thirds will unite with Croatia and Serbia respectively. All south slavs (except the Slovenes) are eitehr Serbs or Croats. These are the only two slavic tribes mentioned in in the Balkans since antiquity. Montengrins, Bosnijaks, Macedonians, what were their ancestors called before they moved to the Balkans?
Mensur Omerbashich
Thu Nov 13 2008 08:46
Scary; seeing writings that contain so many words and so little truth. Where might be the source of your hatred, I wonder?
My Name
Wed Nov 12 2008 20:36
"Clinton stooge"

This is very childish and sets the tone for the rest of your 'article.' And Bosnia has plenty of validity, they even had their own Orthodox Church once upon a time.

Dutchie
Sun Nov 9 2008 02:54
It's Dutchie again. It does me good to see that more and more people are opening their to what has happened here in the Balkan during the 90's and see the role that the West played in destroying Yugoslavia.
I live in Belgrade and before coming here I also believed most of the propaganda that western puppet media fed us. But I've seen with my own eyes what NATO has done here, destroying a country's infrastructure and bombing random houses in random villages. They cluster bombs and depleted uranium. Humanitairy military internvention?
Dutchie
Sat Nov 8 2008 03:02
Apparently everybody has right on selfdeterminination except for Serbs. Whether that are the Serbs of Croatia, Bosnia or Kosovo. Bosnia has never been an independent nation but was always part of 'something' else.
How can you force people to live in 'country' if they don't want to? Holbrooke is a piece of sh*t and only trying to save his 'reputation'. For America it's all about the oil anyway. As for Aleks: most articles in the world are anti-Serb because that was the agenda in the 90's: blame the Serbs for everything that happened. Designate them as Nazis and the muslims of Bosnia as the new Jews. Everything to get everyone onboard to defend the illusion of multi-culturalism of Europe and to get the new Left onboard to attack Serbia. Did Serbs do warcrimes? Yes indeed and very horrible ones. But so did the Croats, the muslims, the Kosovar Albanians and also the West and NATO.
But the Serbs didn't start it. The Croats first starting ethnical cleansing and everybody knew that a declaration of independence by Bosnia would result in civil war. So why did they do it then? Because America made them.
As for Bulgaria: They are not popular in Serbia. Also in Greece you're not popular, I've spoken to Greek people in Greece this summer. Bulgaria is also not very popular in Macedonia. So don't kid youself. And no, I'm not Serb.
Joeren
Fri Nov 7 2008 23:38
Such a propaganda! It would be better to write an article on the Serbian genocide in Bosnia and Croatia, and what it should do to reverse the outcome.
Caleb Posner
Fri Nov 7 2008 20:01
While there are many comments here deserving response, the one that stood out most was that by Aleks. So, to him, I must state a few things:

1) The failure of certain people to have kind words about others does not indicate that the latter group is guilty of something. That is, just because the handful of Bulgarians you know don't lavish praise upon Serbia is of no consequence. Obviously alliances change over time, and regardless of where alliances may rest, individuals can have their own views that deviate from the established standard. So I would not presume, even were your point relevant, that your data sample is grounds to make such broad statements.

2) The Serbs are regarded as victims by those who've studied the region. Yet clearly, articles written from such a viewpoint are in the extreme minority. Perhaps if you only read a couple of Serbian nationalist websites then I can understand why you'd claim otherwise. But you'll notice that the Western press, the ICTY, the EU, and other entities generally hold Serbs to a much different standard than their neighbors, blaming them for whatever they can, regardless of whether or not the charges they level are factually validated. Hell, even Serbia's national media is dominated by the left wing anti-nationalists who are content to declare anybody right of Tadic to be a monster. Just look at the editorial bias of B92.

3) As for who writes pro-Serbia articles, I will state as a matter of record that I am in no way Serbian. Neither I, nor any of my progenitors come from Serbia or other parts of the Former Yugoslavia. I am thus a third party observer issuing comment based on an objective review of the facts. Likewise, many other defenders of Serbia, such as Julia Gorin, Robert Spencer, and Dr. Andrew Bostom are not people whose roots are in the Balkans.

Now, more generally to those commenting, while I welcome feedback, I would like your comments to be of actual worth. So, in the future, if my piece is "historically false" then prove it to me by citing valid sources that would undermine my arguments. Merely declaring that there is a problem with my article, without providing the grounds upon which your claims are made, does nothing to add to the discussion.

ida
Fri Nov 7 2008 18:51
"when i talk to greek friends or other people of bulgarian descent"

There are several Serbian-Greek friendship groups - on the internet, celebrations/festivals, etc. Greece has also helped Serbian children who suffered during the war by inviting hundreds of them to Greece each summer for several years now.

The Greeks really loved the Serbian refugee basketball player Peja Stojakovic who played in the Greek league. He and his family were ethnically cleansed by Croats when he was a boy and the Croats burned his family's home and business (a grocery store) as they did to hundreds of thousands of other Serbs.

The census results show it was the Serb population which declined from pre-war to post war - in Croatia they went from over 12.2% of the population to less than 4.5% after the war, according to the 2002 Croatian census. In Kosovo the Serb population is less than half what it was prewar. Bosnia was a land swap and the overall Muslim percentage is the same, if not greater than prewar. In Sarajevo, for instance the population is now 95% Muslim and there's been an explosion of mosque-building there.

There are strongholds of more militant Muslim cities and towns such as Zenica.

Very recently some Muslims planted a bomb at a store in the mixed Croat/Muslim city of Vitez and it killed one Croat and injured another.

Croats in Sarajevo complained this summer of the Muslims painting the sidewalks there green, which is the traditional Muslim color. The Croats are very uncomfortable in Muslim areas and their population is gradually declining.

These Balkan wars were set up mainly by the U.S. State Department, Germany and Great Britain. They wanted to destroy Yugoslavia and break it up into small ethnically pure or ethnically divided servile statelets. It is no coincidence that Yugoslavia's collapse and war started right after the unification of Germany.

Germany was sending stockpiles of East German weapons to the Croats. Britain was shipping millions worth of military communication equipment to Slovenia just before the wars started.

Germany and Austria never liked Croatia and Slovenia being in Yugoslavia. They sponsored hatred towards Serbs for centuries and sought to divide the peoples. They attacked and promoted the killing of millions of Serbs in WWI and WWII.

Austria also shored up the Muslims when the Ottoman Turks were finally kicked out. The raised the Muslim army in Bosnia and heavily financed the Muslim areas including in the Sandzak (which is an area straddling Serbia and Montenegro.)

aleks
Fri Nov 7 2008 15:17
how come it is only the serbs are the victims, every time there is an article about the former yugoslavia. i am a 3rd generation american of bulgarian descent. all i know is that every country that has serbs in it or if it is a neighboring state of serbia... dislikes the people. i know historically serbs and bulgarians have been historical allies (as well as greeks), but based on most recent history, when i talk to greek friends or other people of bulgarian descent, they do not have kind things to say about the serbs. so that is why i find it humorous, almost everytime there is an article about the serbs, it is never really positive... and the only people ever defending the serbs are people of serbian descent. it makes me think that they do not even realize how much they effective everyone around them negatively. even when i have tried to research the serbian history, most often in their history, their leaders have been killed by their own people, not even given the opportunity to die of natural causes. kind of barbaric to me.
StlMarine
Fri Nov 7 2008 14:18
Come on, people, can't you see that someone is playing you with this article. I do not see many statements based on a historical theories, but rather based on Serbian-lobby talking points. Do not base your opinion of the situation in Balkans based on this article. It is well written, but historically false. If you wish to form a valuable opinion, look up the situation and its history, but scrutinize the source. I learned that lesson due to my profession, where I spend extensive ammounts of time researching history and customs of the nations I deploy to.
DM
Fri Nov 7 2008 13:03
I don't think the US has any intention of changing it's policy's towards Serb's, not as long as there's oil in the Caspian Sea. If the new US President actually did adopt a policy to promote peace in the Region I would first be shocked and then delighted. With Joe Biden as his VP this is of course fantasy.
in a just world, Bosnia and Kosovo should both be divided and ALL people allowed to make democratic decisions for themselves. Setting aside money to relocate people stuck in Geograpgically hostile enclaves would truly bring peace. Unfortunately Washingotn doesn't want peace or stablility. If there was no conflict to exploit, It would be counter-productive to the policy of exerting influence and control in the region .
Your name
Thu Nov 6 2008 17:54
Things are different now its a whole new ball game in fact. The world is no longer unipolar.Heaven help Bosnia if a new war broke out. The Muslims and Croats in a temporariry alliance of convenience would attack the Serbs expecting to cleanse them out of Bosnia just like the Croats cleansed the Serbs from Croatia in 95.Initially they will make big territorial gains then as the Serbs are pushed tighter and tigher up against the river Drina Serbia would have no choice but to intervene big style and this time with total Russian support both militarily and diplomatically.Chaos would ensue and hundreds of thousands would die and the war of the nineties would seem like a walk in the Park.This would be more like 1941. And all this would be done to install a the second Muslim state after Kosovo in the heart of Europe . Im convince Holbrook. Albright, Ashdown and many others are all mad .
Lazar
Thu Nov 6 2008 13:56
Damir commented claiming that bogomils were the first ones there. The bogomils were not the first, and are in fact a sect from Buglaria which was there for a very short time.