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Bosnia is as much a nation as any other European country

Edip Oncu

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Published: Wednesday, November 12, 2008

Updated: Wednesday, November 12, 2008

At a time when the United States is celebrating its historical moment of having an African-American President-elect in its own challenge against its racial and religious prejudices, it is disappointing to see a biased article in an international affairs section regarding a European nation’s fate. In Caleb Posner’s column (Student Life, Nov. 5) he discusses Bosnia and Herzegovina’s nationhood or “historical validity” and proposes that the Bosnians should be denied of their independence and statehood. His claims are poorly-based and biased.

Posner attempts to negate the biggest achievement of the Clinton administration, to stop the Serbian genocide against the Bosnian people, and Richard Holbrooke, just because he thinks Bosnia is a breeding ground “for jihad and Islamism” requires serious consideration. (What is Islamism anyways? There is no political movement called Islamism in any kind of literature; did he mean radical Islamists? Or Islamic terrorists?)

As a student of history and religions I feel obliged to object to any kind of misinformation, especially when it is guided with an agenda like Posner’s, which I believe is based mostly on personal biases, lack of information and academic immaturity.

I have a few questions to ask in response to Caleb Posner’s words.

1. Posner writes, “Truth be told, Bosnia has no historical legitimacy.” How can any authority prove the historical legitimacy of a state? Who legitimizes a nation? Can Mr. Posner prove to me the legitimacy of Great Britain or United States, for example?

2.He next argues, “Bosnia is not a nation of historic validity, but a disputed buffer region.” Again, who validates if a nation is historically valid or not?

And is a nation a geographical term determined by buffer zone? Even if you use that ill-definition of buffer zone, Croatia was the buffer zone for centuries between the Ottoman Empire and the Habsburg Empire. If Bosnia is artificial, so are Serbia and Croatia, since all those were created by Jozip Tito after WWII artificially. With the same logic one can say that Yugoslavians were not a nation, because it was a term created by Tito.

3. Dayton Accords did not create that federal system as Posner argues; it was a system going far back to Ottoman times which was equally applied by Tito. The Bosnian lands becoming battlegrounds was the guilt of Serbian leaders, who ruthlessly and systematically applied means of genocide to claim majority in Bosnian lands. And all of those leaders went on trial for their part in genocide.

4. Posner claims that “Bosnia would be kept in check; its ability to provide a breeding ground for jihad and Islamism would be reduced by threat of invasion from neighbors.” This sentence explains Posner is against Bosnian independence just because there are Muslim people living in Bosnia. But, what kind of Islam do Bosnians practice, and are there any accounts that Bosnian people support any kind of terrorism? Any reasonable and informed person would know that Bosnian Muslims are generally tolerant and mild—it is one of the reasons they were butchered so easily by the Serbian soldiers.

My final question is this: Is Posner trying to justify Serbian genocide just because Bosnia has a sizeable Muslim population? What kind of an approach is it that leads to an American sophomore trying to deny a nation from its nationhood and proposing that that nation be swallowed up by its neighbors? The biggest problem concerning the American public is misinformation about international affairs, and this is mostly done by the agents of mass media.

I will be grateful to see our people more informed and less biased when making judgments on the rest of the world.

 

Comments

4 comments
Lazar
Tue Nov 18 2008 09:24
As someone who was born and lived in the region, let me try to explain a few facts. Bosnia is not a nation but a geographical region. There are three main nations living there - Serbs, Croats and Muslims. Everybody from that region is called a "Bosnian" (Bosanatz), regardless of his religion or nation and Bosnia belongs to all of the three equally. In terms of private property, Serbs (who are mainly farmers) owned approximatelly 70% of the land before the war. During the war, Muslims invented new, slightly different term (hardly any westerner will note the difference), "Bosniak" (Boshnyak) in order to establish themselves as only genuine "Bosnian people". That causes a lot of confusion, because the war of "Serbs/Croats and Bosniaks" was then portrayed as a war between "Serbia/Croatia and Bosnia", which is completely false - that was civil war between inhabitants of Bosnia. Serbia and Croatia certainly helped their sides in the conflict, and there's nothing strange with that. If Iranians and Saudis were helping Muslim side (there was even a division of mujahideen fighters), there is nothing strange with Serbia supporting Serbs and Croatia supporting Croats. Propaganda trick was - "Bosniaks" were proclaimed as "defenders of Bosnia", while Serbs and Croats in that story look like some alien invaders, no matter the fact they are equally genuine "Bosnian people" as Muslims who are in fact descendants of Christian (i.e. Serbian and Croatian) converts to Islam during the Ottoman rule.

As a Serb, I certainly support the existence of Bosnia as a country, but let's make a few things clear. The author asked a question "what kind of Islam do Bosnians practice?". Bosnians in general do not "practice Islam", Bosnian population is majority Christian - Christians (Serbs and Croats) are 55% of the population, Muslims are 45%. So, no - that nation is not "swallowed up by its neighbors", that nation is comprised of three different ethnicities who want to protect their identities. When Bosnia is proclaimed "Muslim land" (as in this article), Christians (again - majority of the population) have every reason to be worried and protest. While Bosnia is legitimate European country, "Muslim Bosnia" has no historical legitimacy for obvious reasons - it is not exclusively Muslim land. "Federal government" (read: Muslim) attempts to cancel the Serbian entity within Bosnia is just that - an attempt to erase the history and establish a pure Muslim state where it never existed. If you are familiar with Islamic doctrine of Dar-al-Harb, there's nothing strange. And Bosnian Christians, who have very real experience about what does it mean, clearly say - only over our dead bodies.

Zlatko
Tue Nov 18 2008 01:59
Well said. It's apparent that Caleb P has a personal agenda and bases his facts (or lack thereof) on Serbian wesbsites. I lost count of how many links were directed to Srpska Mreza. Comedy really. Must be nice fort such a fortunate "academic" to speculate on the people apparently NOT killed by Serb forces. Such opinions can only be borne from those unfamiliar with the events taken place and spun to nauseating effect because of some left-field quirky ideas. Extremely shameful. I concede that his argument is based mainly on the legitimacy of Bosnia (an equally ridiculous outlook in my humble opinion) but these little nuggets he throws in about false victimhood make his other quack-like arguments unreadable by association.
Matt
Wed Nov 12 2008 16:24
Oh, I see. What passes for legitimate scholarship today is that it is found on the internet. I suppose those pictures of Barack Obama doing ballroom dancing with Sarah Palin were also true, because that was also found on the internet. I believe that is is particularly cowardly of Mr. Posner to, in response to such a thoughful article, let his web references do his talking/analysis for him. I would have posed a few additional question to Mr. Posner: Have you ever been in Bosnia? or Croatia? or Serbia? Have you ever attended a war crimes trial? Then again, the answer to those questions is obvious.
Caleb Posner
Wed Nov 12 2008 14:29
This article struck me as something worthy of a response by me. Unfortunately, what I wrote proved to be quite lengthy. So, rather than write it here, I've put it up on one of my blogs, which I would encourage those who read this piece to visit:
http://calebspeaks.wordpress.com/2008/11/12/bosnias-legitimacy-or-lack-thereof/

Do note that it links quite heavily to other websites that are either themselves established sources, or which quote and cite heavily from such sources. Thus, I think you'll find my refutation of this rely on the history this man claims is lacking.