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	<title>Comments on: Does Columbus deserve a federal holiday?</title>
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		<title>By: Jerome Bauer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerome Bauer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 19:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just for fun, I recommend Orson Scott Card&#039;s science fiction novel, &quot;Pastwatch: The Redemption of Christopher Columbus.&quot; If you had access to temporal engineering technology, how would you plan a kinder, gentler conquest of the Americas? Or would you make another plan?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just for fun, I recommend Orson Scott Card&#8217;s science fiction novel, &#8220;Pastwatch: The Redemption of Christopher Columbus.&#8221; If you had access to temporal engineering technology, how would you plan a kinder, gentler conquest of the Americas? Or would you make another plan?</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Clevenger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Clevenger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Things are never so simple. Offical Columbus Day celebrations came about largely through the efforts of 19th century Italian-Americas who were battling the entrenched and strong anti-immigrant anti-Catholic forces of the time. Columbus was a partiularly compelling figure for thier cause. It is easy to forget the decades of discrimination and violence that Irish and Italians endured in this country. 

Further, it is a bit simplistic to lay the blame for centuries of oppresion and exploitation of native peoples at his feet. He only made 4 trips, never landed on the mainland, and died within a couple of decades of his first &quot;discovery&quot;. Did he forsee and intend all of the horrors that were come? It seems unlikely.  

I think heros are important, But what history suggests to me is that we learn not to blindly vererate anyone. Use these celebrations as a time to examine our heros warts and all. Columbus&#039;s actions within the context of his world were transformative and heroic. Rather than push him off the stage, let&#039;s learn to see the fuller picture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Things are never so simple. Offical Columbus Day celebrations came about largely through the efforts of 19th century Italian-Americas who were battling the entrenched and strong anti-immigrant anti-Catholic forces of the time. Columbus was a partiularly compelling figure for thier cause. It is easy to forget the decades of discrimination and violence that Irish and Italians endured in this country. </p>
<p>Further, it is a bit simplistic to lay the blame for centuries of oppresion and exploitation of native peoples at his feet. He only made 4 trips, never landed on the mainland, and died within a couple of decades of his first &#8220;discovery&#8221;. Did he forsee and intend all of the horrors that were come? It seems unlikely.  </p>
<p>I think heros are important, But what history suggests to me is that we learn not to blindly vererate anyone. Use these celebrations as a time to examine our heros warts and all. Columbus&#8217;s actions within the context of his world were transformative and heroic. Rather than push him off the stage, let&#8217;s learn to see the fuller picture.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure we know about the horrors of what Columbus did, but we can&#039;t go around telling 6 year olds that Columbus enslaved a race of indigenous people in the name of greed and Western Imperialism. Columbus was a very important and influential person in the formation of the USA, his horrific acts notwithstanding. If a Columbus Day didn&#039;t exist, I would (in my naivete) maybe ask my 1st grade teacher why such a famous person doesn&#039;t have his own day, and there&#039;s no good answer for that. I just don&#039;t think we should be teaching genocide to children until they&#039;re old enough to actually comprehend what genocide implies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure we know about the horrors of what Columbus did, but we can&#8217;t go around telling 6 year olds that Columbus enslaved a race of indigenous people in the name of greed and Western Imperialism. Columbus was a very important and influential person in the formation of the USA, his horrific acts notwithstanding. If a Columbus Day didn&#8217;t exist, I would (in my naivete) maybe ask my 1st grade teacher why such a famous person doesn&#8217;t have his own day, and there&#8217;s no good answer for that. I just don&#8217;t think we should be teaching genocide to children until they&#8217;re old enough to actually comprehend what genocide implies.</p>
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